![]() 21, available in two flavors designated Z and Y, and improving on two localizer-only approaches.) Most IFR pilots can explain that IAPs not considered straight-in (for several possible reasons) get a letter in their titles, such as the VOR or GPS-B approach to California’s Palm Springs International. I'd be interested in any input from the controller types here.Īnd EatSleep. That ILS is a brand-new IAP released Sept. Other places, like say Reno have both ILS and LOC approaches published. My Redding example has no Loc 34 approach. If ATC says "Cleared for the RDD LOC 34 approach", there is gonna be some confused folks. Two forms of instrument approaches are an ILS short for Instrument Landing System, and LOC which stands for the localizer. This initially confused my green freight-flying brain last autumn, but in hindsight it makes sense: if ATC clears you for a PUBLISHED approach, there better be a page in your little booky-booky with that approach. In FACT, there have been times that the Center controller might not even know about this!! When this happens to us in "real world/IMC", often the controllers simply said "cleared for the RDD ILS 34 approach." Its up to US to know that the GS is out based on ATIS and NOTAM. If you are flying an ILS lets say the Redding RDD ILS 34 and the glideslope is out of service, then what happens is that you cleared for the "RDD ILS 34 localizer only approach". They are only different approaches if they are different PUBLISHED approaches. ![]() In a training environment in good weather, they may not say anything (although they should, and are probably supposed to), but I guarantee in the real world/IMC if you request the ILS and fly a LOC approach, they'll be saying something to you! They're two different approaches that use some of the same equipment, that's it. When you turn inbound, youll switch to the I-HYZ LOC frequency of 110.5. As you arc to the localizer course, youll reference DME off TVF. Fixes along the approach are identified using DME from the TVF VOR. The ILS and LOC are NOT the same approach. Lets take a look at the Thief River Falls (KTVF) ILS to Runway 31. DO NOT request an ILS and then go fly a LOC approach. If you're flying a LOC-only, tell them that.
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